DaFranker comments on By Which It May Be Judged - Less Wrong

35 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 December 2012 04:26AM

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Comment author: DaFranker 10 December 2012 07:46:03PM 4 points [-]

My mind reduces all of this to "God = Confusion". What am I missing?

Comment author: Alejandro1 10 December 2012 07:49:07PM *  0 points [-]

Well, I said that the metaphysics is confused, so we agree. I just think the metaethics part of religious philosophy can be put in order without falling into Euthyphro, the problem is in its broader philosophical system.

Comment author: DaFranker 10 December 2012 07:56:41PM *  0 points [-]

Not quite how I'd put it. I meant that in my mind the whole metaethics part implies that "God" is just a shorthand term for "whatever turns out to be 'goodness', even if we don't understand it yet", and that this resolves to the fact that "God" serves no other purposes than to confuse morality with other things within this context.

I think we still agree, though.

Comment author: MixedNuts 10 December 2012 08:14:34PM 4 points [-]

Using the word also implies that this goodness-embodying thing is sapient and has superpowers.

Comment author: dspeyer 10 December 2012 09:14:04PM 0 points [-]

Or that it is sometimes useful to tell metaphorical stories about this goodness-embodying thing as if it were sapient and had superpowers.

Or as if the ancients thought it was sapient and had superpowers. They were wrong about that, but right about enough important things that we still value their writings.