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35 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 December 2012 04:26AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 18 December 2012 09:30:18PM 0 points [-]

Mathematical definitions sure aren't just some social construct. You pick axioms, you derive theorems. If not, you are lying about maths.

(And picking axioms doesn't matter either, because maths exists independently of physical systems computing them)

Comment author: Will_Sawin 19 December 2012 07:06:11AM 3 points [-]

I mean, didn't Eliezer cover this? You're not lying if you call numbers groups and groups numbers. If you switch in the middle of a proof, sure, that's lying, but that seems irrelevant. The definitions pick out what you're talking about.

When I'm talking about morality, I'm talking about That Thing That Determines What You're Supposed to Do, You Know, That One.

Comment author: [deleted] 25 December 2012 01:58:21AM -1 points [-]

So am I.

You Know, That Part Of Your Brain That Computes That Thing That Determines What You're Supposed to Do, Given What You Know, You Know, That One.

I don't even remember the mind set I had when I wrote this, nor what this is all about.

Comment author: Will_Sawin 26 December 2012 05:37:18AM 1 point [-]

Referring to a part of your brain doesn't have the right properties when you change between different universes.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 December 2012 04:44:45PM 0 points [-]

That is true, and so we refer to the medium-independet axiomatic definition.

Comment author: Will_Sawin 01 January 2013 06:06:06PM 1 point [-]

What's that?

Comment author: [deleted] 01 January 2013 11:02:59PM 0 points [-]

That Thing That Determines What You're Supposed to Do, Given What You Know, You Know, That One.