Decius comments on By Which It May Be Judged - Less Wrong

35 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 December 2012 04:26AM

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Comment author: nshepperd 22 December 2012 02:57:23AM 2 points [-]

Those who engage in an action in which not all participants enter of their own will is immoral.

A theory of morality that looks nice on paper but is completely wrong. In a war between Good and Evil, Good should win. It doesn't matter if Evil consented.

Comment author: Decius 22 December 2012 03:40:16AM 0 points [-]

You're following narrative logic there. Also, using the definitions given, anyone who unilaterally starts a war is Evil, and anyone who starts a war consents to it. It is logically impossible for Good to defeat Evil in a contest that Evil did not willingly choose to engage in.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 22 December 2012 07:35:56AM 1 point [-]

What if Evil is actively engaged in say torturing others?

Comment author: Decius 22 December 2012 07:41:51AM 0 points [-]

What if Evil is actively engaged in say torturing others? [Without the consent of the tortured]

Acts like constitute acts of the 'war' between Good and Evil that you are so eager to have. Have at them.

Comment author: nshepperd 22 December 2012 05:46:35AM *  1 point [-]

Right, just like it's logically impossible for Good to declare war against Evil to prevent or stop Evil from doing bad things that aren't war.

Comment author: Decius 22 December 2012 07:27:53AM 1 point [-]

Exactly. You can't be Good and do immoral things. Also, abstractions don't take actions.