wedrifid comments on By Which It May Be Judged - Less Wrong

35 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 December 2012 04:26AM

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Comment author: wedrifid 31 December 2012 03:50:30AM *  2 points [-]

The modern scientific consensus is that kin selection and group selection are equivalent, explain the same set of phenomena and make the same predictions.

This seems suspiciously similar to saying "kin selection exists and group selection basically doesn't" but with less convenient redefinition of "group selection".

Comment author: timtyler 01 January 2013 01:21:16PM *  0 points [-]

They can't be equivalent if group selection doesn't exist - since kin selection is well established orthodoxy.

Both the kin selection and group selection concepts evolved after being invented. This is normal for scientific concepts: our ideas about gravity and light evolved in a similar manner.