buybuydandavis comments on [LINK] Two Modes of Discourse: Taking everything personally v. debate as sport - Less Wrong

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Comment author: buybuydandavis 10 December 2012 02:56:12PM 5 points [-]

LW has always maintained that factionalized debate does not promote good epistemic rationality, but it seems that it does have some redeeming qualities after all.

It has redeeming qualities, compared to sensitivity discourse. It doesn't mean it's the best you can do.

I recall seeing a proposed hierarchy on argument strategies once. That sound familiar to anyone?

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 10 December 2012 03:12:26PM 7 points [-]

This one of Paul Graham?

Comment author: buybuydandavis 10 December 2012 03:56:30PM 3 points [-]

That's a pretty good one. Thanks.

But I think there was one with levels beyond "refutation of the central point". More of a "delimit and extend", where you show the bounds of validity of an argument, and what's true more generally beyond those bounds.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 10 December 2012 04:07:59PM *  4 points [-]
Comment author: buybuydandavis 10 December 2012 04:20:44PM 4 points [-]

Looks like Paul Graham+.

Still, at the end, one has refuted something. I think the highest levels should find the value in the argument you're refuting, and incorporate it into your own result. Synthesize, instead of refuting.