jimrandomh comments on "What Is Wrong With Our Thoughts" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jimrandomh 17 May 2009 08:34:24PM 6 points [-]

What probably happened is that philosophers became popular only if their ideas were simple enough and appealing enough.

On the contrary, philosophers became popular only if their ideas were complicated enough to fill a book. The ideas that were simple enough to be true were also too short to publish.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 17 May 2009 08:50:06PM 1 point [-]

An interesting possibility. (Nitpick: "Simple enough to be true" implies that complex ideas can't be true. This is wrong.)

Can you give an example of a simple but non-obvious truth that was available but passed over in philosophy?

Comment author: AllanCrossman 17 May 2009 08:59:58PM 0 points [-]

What do you mean by "available"?

Comment author: PhilGoetz 17 May 2009 10:33:44PM 0 points [-]

Eg., I'm not interested in hearing that medieval philosophers ignored the idea that the motion of the planets are governed by the same laws that govern the motion of bodies on earth.

Comment author: AllanCrossman 18 May 2009 12:01:02PM *  1 point [-]

So, are we looking for something which is:

  • Simple,
  • True,
  • Not obvious,
  • Was claimed as true by someone or other,
  • But mostly ignored?

Perhaps Aristarchus and his heliocentrism would fit the bill (while not strictly true, it was truer than the alternative).