Konkvistador comments on Open Thread, December 16-31, 2012 - Less Wrong
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The deadliest school massacre in US history was in 1927. Why its aftermath matters now
These things are huge triggers for me. It drives me mad that society has the reaction it does when this event killed as many people as die every eleven seconds. If we had a proportional societal reaction to all deaths, maybe we'd have solved the problem by now.
Edit: I accidentally the math
Yes! I really liked this tweet from Thom Blake on the matter:
I did too. I think I retweeted that.
Since the perpetrator in 1928 was a school board official who had taken time to prepare the crime, it's unlikely that modern-style security would have helped. If the same thing happened today, it would be harder for people to demand important officials be searched every time they enter the school, than to demand random adults should be searched. This accounts for some of the difference in reaction.
The other side of the coin - how this very distance can be put to a sickening use with drone strikes.
By sickening use do you mean more pinpoint attacks that kill fewer people than conventional means?
By sickening use I mean that I see no way that a large-scale conventional operation in Northern Pakistan would've even been approved - nor a reason to start a military operation there, instead of the U.S. handling the real problem - the unstable, aggressive and brutally incompetent Pakistani government. In my opinion, it ought to have been pressured to provide good administration and good policing in the troubled areas, to eliminate the roots of insurgency and terrorism instead of continuing the cycle of violence.
A regime that has nuclear weapons, a modern army and a huge "security" apparatus but can't prevent chaos, poverty and tribal warfare in its own backyard is being coddled just because it's politically expedient for the US. Unless the Americans are willing to blast every single inch of Pakistan, I see no way how drone strikes could be helping the whole mess. But oh, the CIA and the military have some dead insurgents to show for it; no more frags could mean no more promotions and no more huge budgets!
I think you are absolutely right about the optimal response / change in procedures (basically, don't change anything) given these awful events. Given the rarity of these types of events, the expected value of any security program is essentially identical to what it was two weeks ago. It's a crying shame that this kind of cost-benefit analysis is not the universal reaction to proposed changes in policy arising out of unusual events.
But it is a logistical fact that faster killing devices kill more people per incident.