FiftyTwo comments on Open Thread, December 16-31, 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: FiftyTwo 28 December 2012 03:37:05PM 1 point [-]

Quick thought experiment for you all: A machine has been invented that can view the past (type in place/time/date and you can see what happened then with perfect accuracy). Would you allow the police to use it to investigate crimes?

Comment author: gryffinp 29 December 2012 02:17:11AM *  2 points [-]

The easiest answer, the one that leapt to my mind with a moment's thought, is "Yes, if they get a warrant."

That would probably be the answer that fits best into the current American legal system. (I have even less understanding of the laws of other countries, so I can't make any claim about that.)

Comment author: Alicorn 28 December 2012 09:09:31PM 1 point [-]

If I have the power to allow or disallow such a thing, do I also have the power to arrange enforcement of rules saying that's all the police can do with it?

Comment author: [deleted] 28 December 2012 04:20:26PM 1 point [-]

I think police investigation would be a very minor concern compared to the massive social upheaval that the device would cause. A very similar idea was explored in The Light of Other Days - not a great book plot-wise, though.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 28 December 2012 05:09:40PM 2 points [-]

I read the original short story in one of the Asimov collections but didn't realise it had been made into a full length novel.

Comment author: katydee 07 January 2013 04:38:24AM *  1 point [-]

The classic short story E for Effort also discusses this.

Comment author: drethelin 29 December 2012 06:08:11PM 0 points [-]

What's the time limit? Can you just view what's happening 5 seconds ago anywhere in the world?

Comment author: beoShaffer 29 December 2012 02:22:26AM 0 points [-]

Yes, why not?

Comment author: [deleted] 29 December 2012 01:39:04AM 0 points [-]

Yes.

Do we allow independent historians to use the device? What happens to conventional accounts of WWII, etc?

Comment author: RobinZ 28 December 2012 04:23:29PM 0 points [-]

Yes, modulo the Fourth Amendment rights of the participants. Under most circumstances, using the evidence of the machine in court would require obtaining a warrant in advance of turning it on.

Comment author: MugaSofer 13 January 2013 03:13:02PM -2 points [-]

Are we to assume it has the many, many safeguards needed to prevent it being used for other purposes?