Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 17, chapter 86

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Edit: New thread posted here.

This is a new thread to discuss Eliezer Yudkowsky’s Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality and anything related to it. This thread is intended for discussing chapter 86. The previous thread has long passed 500 comments.

There is now a site dedicated to the story at hpmor.com, which is now the place to go to find the authors notes and all sorts of other goodies. AdeleneDawner has kept an archive of Author’s Notes. (This goes up to the notes for chapter 76, and is now not updating. The authors notes from chapter 77 onwards are on hpmor.com.)

The first 5 discussion threads are on the main page under the harry_potter tag. Threads 6 and on (including this one) are in the discussion section using its separate tag system. Also: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.

As a reminder, it’s often useful to start your comment by indicating which chapter you are commenting on.

Spoiler Warning: this thread is full of spoilers. With few exceptions, spoilers for MOR and canon are fair game to post, without warning or rot13. More specifically:

You do not need to rot13 anything about HP:MoR or the original Harry Potter series unless you are posting insider information from Eliezer Yudkowsky which is not supposed to be publicly available (which includes public statements by Eliezer that have been retracted).

If there is evidence for X in MOR and/or canon then it’s fine to post about X without rot13, even if you also have heard privately from Eliezer that X is true. But you should not post that “Eliezer said X is true” unless you use rot13.

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ygert13y40

Here is my strategy to filter through the dross: I use the "favorite story" lists of people who seem to have similar tastes in stories as me. How do I know if someone has a similar taste in stories as me? Well, if someone has written a story in a style that I like, probably they have a similar taste in stories. (Basically, I assume that people like to read the same style of stories that they write.)

I got started out reading fanfiction other than HPMOR by reading some fics from EY's favorite stories list, and then for each of those stories that I liked (that is, basically all of them, seeing as I like more or less the same kind of stories EY likes), I read other stories by that author, and I read stories on that author's "favorite stories" list, and then read other stories by authors of those stories, and stories from their favorite lists, and so on.

I hope this advice helps you. If you want specific fanfic recommendations though, you can check out my fanfiction.net favorite stories list.

flksed13y50

I use the "favorite story" lists of people who seem to have similar tastes in stories as me.

I have automated this method, but my current weighing scheme isn't very good. In case anyone can suggest a better one, below is my setup.

Each user has a rank that describes how similar their taste is to mine. Each story has a rank that describes how much I like it. We start with user ranks being all 0, and with story ranks reflecting my preferences. First we set each user's rank to be the average of the ranks of the stories he likes ('average' can be re... (read more)

1Nornagest13y

One disadvantage of that method is that the stories it gives you will mostly stay local to one fandom, unless you're lucky enough to spot a talented multifandom author, and those are pretty rare. (Eliezer is one, though, which helps.) Good if you're only looking for Harry Potter fic, bad if you're looking for good writing and aren't too concerned about milieu. Another possible disadvantage is that you might end up with a reading list full of remarkably weird kinks: favorites lists tend to be weighted towards unique tastes. This is probably less of an issue on ff.net with its content policies, but something to keep in mind if you spend a lot of time sifting through (e.g.) AO3 or LJ.

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