hyporational comments on Notes on Psychopathy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: jsalvatier 19 December 2012 09:07:05PM 9 points [-]

As discussed in chapter 1, we have used a score of 27 on the APSD as our cut-off point for a classification of psychopathic tendencies in many of our studies.

I've noticed this elsewhere (looking into ADHD), Psychiatrists seem interested in developing a criteria which seems naturally continuous, and then using a cutoff without arguing for why that's a good idea. I can easily imagine that some conditions are discrete, but many of them must be pretty continuous. It seems like they would lose a lot of statistical power with a cutoff approach.

Is this purely a historical accident? Is it because discrete judgments seem more authoritative? Is there an actual good reason that I can't see? What's going on here? This sort of thing makes me suspicious of the quality of psychiatry research.

Comment author: hyporational 25 December 2012 10:24:49AM 1 point [-]

I think it's mostly a historical accident but also has to do with practical issues. Natural language and continous phenomena don't go well hand in hand, and the criteria have to be applicable in the clinical setting and the guidelines. DSM is the basis for most psychiatric research, and almost all of the disorders currently described in it are categorical with clear cutoff points instead of continous. Psychiatrists acknowledge this problem, and DSM-5 is going for a more dimensional approach as opposed to categorical.

The official source is here.

Comment author: jsalvatier 25 December 2012 11:32:59AM 1 point [-]

Very interesting! Sounds like a positive development. Interesting that it's the DSM at the cutting edge, I assumed it was a book of standards.