DaFranker comments on Narrative, self-image, and self-communication - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Academian 19 December 2012 04:57:17PM *  10 points [-]

This sounds like exactly the kind of failure mode I'm trying to describe. In your "empty identity" scenario, I'd now guess that an image of "selflessness" or "blankness" or something like that would either bias your beliefs about yourself or slow your processing of them. In particular, it might interfere with certain cognitive capacities that other people find natural, obvious, and useful. This is speculation on my part, but to the extent that narrative features are a bottleneck in how our brains process beliefs about ourselves and others, the way you naturally and efficiently represent yourself to yourself may be physically tied up with with the same brain-bits that represent stories.

My thought here is that it may be better to learn to use that machinery sanely than to not use it... it's like getting a ridiculously fast software package for analyzing data that makes all sorts of known-to-be-false assumptions about how the data was generated collected. Using it entirely naively is probably bad, as is not using it at all. Knowing that when the package says "X" it's actually evidence for "Y", and using it accordingly, is probably best.

Comment author: DaFranker 19 December 2012 08:40:49PM *  1 point [-]

I agree with most of this, I think.

Building specific personas more optimized for reacting and navigating different situations and landscapes can be very useful, since they prime your subconscious and can (ab)use Type 1 processes. If the persona is well-built, the right type-1 processes can be selected automatically for situations where subconscious processes are cost-effective and optimal (for a gross simplified example, wearing a Slytherin persona can be useful for having a Type 1 process of showing the appropriate, immediate surprise and puzzlement when someone probes you on something you want to keep secret).

Wink wink: the above slytherin example comes pretty much straight from HPMoR, which is why I don't feel the need to go into details. Seriously, read it!