Benja comments on Standard and Nonstandard Numbers - Less Wrong

31 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 December 2012 03:23AM

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Comment author: Benja 20 December 2012 08:10:15PM 11 points [-]

Ok -- as I replied to earthwormchuck, I think Eliezer isn't saying at all that there is a useful way in which these nonstandard execution histories are "really" talking about Turing machines, he's saying the exact opposite: they aren't talking about Turing machines, which is bad if you want to talk about Turing machines, since it means that first-order logic doesn't suffice for expressing exactly what it is you do want to talk about.