nyan_sandwich comments on Gun Control: How would we know? - Less Wrong

11 Post author: rlpowell 20 December 2012 08:14PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (167)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 December 2012 03:43:41AM *  0 points [-]

I was referring to that one. I expected them to be culturally similar because that border is awful straight, but if they aren't, they aren't.

Do you know more about what the differences are and where they came from? Is it differences in political history? Different groups of people?

EDIT: Toronto and Detroit aren't all that similar either. I wonder where you could find a good case where legislation is the only difference between two populations.

Comment author: Alsadius 21 December 2012 07:46:51AM 8 points [-]

Haiti and the Dominican have remarkably different political histories - Haiti has a lot more awful dictators in its past. They're poor comparisons. Toronto and Detroit are probably even worse - Detroit is an industrial centre whose industry rotted out around the same time as it was levelled(metaphorically) by race riots and people fleeing from them. Toronto is a financial and cultural centre whose primary challenge is that they're short a freeway or two and the commute times are bad. If you want to compare Toronto to anything, NYC or maybe Chicago are the obvious candidates.

As for a close cross-border comparison, I propose Seattle and Vancouver. They're close, similarly sized, and culturally close. You can also look at smaller examples(Sault Ste Marie ON/MI, Niagara Falls ON/NY, etc.), but it's harder to get good data from those due to scale, even though they are even closer in geographic and cultural terms.

Comment author: taelor 24 December 2012 07:48:35PM 1 point [-]

North and South Korea just after the split is probably closest to what your looking for, though currently, they have 50 years of differing political histories separating them. Still probably better than most examples.

Comment author: taelor 22 December 2012 01:29:00PM *  1 point [-]

Both countries share a cultural inheritance from the native Taino people, but how much of that was able to escape post-contact ethnocide is a matter of debate. The two countires were united under first Spanish and then French colonial rule, but following the end of colonialism, the mainly Spanish-speaking east engaged in a hard fought war of independance from the French-speaking west. The "awful straight" border you noticed was the end result of this war.

Comment author: rlpowell 24 December 2012 08:26:09AM 0 points [-]

In my limited-ish experience, some Canadian border towns (Niagra Falls, in particular) get pretty close, but you'll get lots of people on both sides that concentrate on their national identity.