Kawoomba comments on Implications of an infinite versus a finite universe - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kawoomba 21 December 2012 09:40:44PM *  0 points [-]

That's what I argued on another site a few months ago, but how do you square that with most current reputable sources saying the universe is actually infinite?

This paper gives a lower bound of 251 Hubble spheres, but also leans towards ", the spatial extent of the Universe is infinite" (if the curvature is >=0). Nothing about "just a theoretical construct". As theoretical as all the other laws and the practical inferences we draw from them.

This paper says outright "An infinite universe is compatible with the data at a confidence level of 4.3σ."

Those were the two that came up at first glance on Google Scholar when looking for "size of the universe", they weren't cherry picked, and seemed to be follow-ups from the WMAP data.

Comment author: shminux 21 December 2012 10:25:58PM *  1 point [-]

From the last paper you linked:

There is an indication that a finite universe fits the data better than an infinite one. However, the “standard” 5- criterion for a discovery, corresponding to a confidence level = 5.7 × 10−7, includes the value L = ∞.

The first paper only estimates the maximum curvature, not the size.

Comment author: Kawoomba 22 December 2012 07:21:55AM 0 points [-]

Hmm hmm, thanks. If it turns out that our current physical models imply that the universe is in fact finite, my "concerns" would go poof. You seem to be leaning towards finiteness, if so, may I ask what you base that on?

Comment author: shminux 22 December 2012 06:01:48PM 0 points [-]

See my replies to Wei Dai.