RomeoStevens comments on New censorship: against hypothetical violence against identifiable people - Less Wrong

22 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 23 December 2012 09:00PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 23 December 2012 09:56:51PM *  16 points [-]

Yes, a post of this type was just recently made.

Well then.

I've heard that firemen respond to everything not because they actually have to, but because it keeps the drill sharp, so to speak. The same idea may apply to mod action... (in other words, MOAR "POINTLESS" CENSORSHIP)

More seriously, does this policy apply to things like gwern's hypothetical bombing of intel?

Comment author: RomeoStevens 23 December 2012 10:26:36PM 0 points [-]

gwern specifically argued that small scale terrorism would be ineffective.

Comment author: printing-spoon 24 December 2012 01:27:40AM 13 points [-]

Implying that whether his post should be censored hinges on the conclusion reached and not just the topic?

Comment author: RomeoStevens 24 December 2012 01:28:57AM 0 points [-]

discussion of violence by state actors is quite a bit different than discussion of individual violence.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 24 December 2012 04:08:20AM 5 points [-]

discussion of violence by state actors is quite a bit different than discussion of individual violence.

Sure, but why is that a difference that makes a difference?

Comment author: MixedNuts 25 December 2012 05:15:35PM 0 points [-]

Individuals are somewhat likely to become violent because of Internet sophistry. If big oils (or likely future big oils) become violent because of Internet sophistry, we have bigger problems.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 23 December 2012 11:25:43PM 6 points [-]

I suppose the next question is whether it would apply to things like comments in response to gwern's hypothetical bombing of intel arguing that his conclusion is incorrect.

Given the stated principles governing the new censorship policy, I think the answer would be "yes, of course."

Comment author: [deleted] 23 December 2012 11:50:04PM *  4 points [-]

Let's not delete posts for disagreeing on uncomfortable empirical questions.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 23 December 2012 11:53:41PM 2 points [-]

I don't think the policy EY is proposing involves banning people, just deleting the stuff we write that violates policy.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 December 2012 11:54:42PM 2 points [-]

fixed, thanks