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22 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 23 December 2012 09:00PM

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Comment author: Mestroyer 24 December 2012 02:08:50AM 7 points [-]

I'll restate a third option here that I made in the censored thread (woohoo, I have read a thread Eliezer Yudkowsky doesn't want people to read, and that you, dear reader of this comment, probably can't!) Make an option while creating a post to have it be only viewable by people with certain karma or above, or so that after a week or so, it disappears from people without that karma. This is based on an idea 4chan uses, where it deletes all threads after they become inactive, to encourage people to discuss freely.

This would keep these threads from showing up when people Googled LessWrong. It could also let us discuss phyggishness without making LessWrong look bad on Google.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 24 December 2012 02:27:00AM 2 points [-]

LW has effectively zero resources to implement software changes.

Comment author: kodos96 24 December 2012 04:24:41AM *  5 points [-]

If this were your real rejection, you would be asking for volunteer software-engineer-hours.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 24 December 2012 05:00:00AM 5 points [-]

Tried.

Comment author: gelisam 24 December 2012 07:24:29AM 12 points [-]

Are you kidding? Sign me up as a volunteer polyglot programmer, then!

Although, my own eagerness to help makes me think that the problem might not be that you tried to ask for volunteers and didn't get any, but rather that you tried to work with volunteers and something else didn't work out.

Comment author: yli 24 December 2012 11:08:28AM *  9 points [-]

Maybe it's just that volunteers that will actually do any work are hard to find. Related.

Personally, I was excited about doing some LW development a couple of years ago and emailed one of the people coordinating volunteers about it. I got some instructions back but procrastinated forever on it and never ended up doing any programming at all.

Comment author: gelisam 24 December 2012 04:27:20PM 3 points [-]

I understand how that might have happened. Now that I am no longer a heroic volunteer saving my beloved website maiden, but just a potential contributor to an open source project, my motivation has dropped.

It is a strange inversion of effect. The issue list and instructions both make it easier for me to contribute, but since they reveal that the project is well organized, they also demotivate me because a well-organized project makes me feel like it doesn't need my help. This probably reveals more about my own psychology than about effective volunteer recruitment strategies, though.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 24 December 2012 07:29:06AM 5 points [-]

The site is open source, you should be able to just write a patch and submit it.

Comment author: kodos96 24 December 2012 07:59:05AM 1 point [-]

This would be a poor investment of time without first getting a commitment from Eliezer that he will accept said patch.

Comment author: gelisam 24 December 2012 03:40:49PM *  2 points [-]

After finding the source and the issue list, I found instructions which indicate that there is, after all, non-zero engineering resources for lesswrong development. Specifically, somebody is sorting the incoming issues into "issues for which contributions are welcome" versus "issues which we want to fix ourselves".

The path to becoming a volunteer contributor is now very clear.

Comment author: AdeleneDawner 25 December 2012 03:35:03AM *  3 points [-]

non-zero engineering resources

effectively zero

Getting someone to sort a list, even on an ongoing basis, is not functionally useful if there's nobody to take action on the sorted list.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 24 December 2012 08:05:00AM 2 points [-]

It'd get you familiar with the code base, which you'd need to be anyway if you wanted to be a volunteer contributor.