NancyLebovitz comments on Ritual 2012: A Moment of Darkness - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Ezekiel 25 December 2012 11:39:08AM 14 points [-]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you're talking about anti-deathism (weak or strong) as if it was a defining value of the LessWrong community. This bothers me.

If you're successful, these rituals will become part of the community identity, and I personally would rather LW tried to be about rationality and just that as much as it can. Everything else that correlates with membership - transhumanism, nerdiness, thinking Eliezer is awesome - I would urge you not to include in the rituals. It's inevitable that they'd turn up, but I wouldn't give them extra weight by including them in codified documents.

As an analogy, one of the things that bugged me about Orthodox Judaism was that it claims to be about keeping the Commandments, but there's a huge pile of stuff that's done just for tradition's sake, that isn't commanded anywhere (no, not even in the Oral Lore or by rabbinical decree).

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 25 December 2012 06:38:12PM 0 points [-]

I thought there was a rule about not breaking tradition, even if the tradition isn't otherwise supported. No?

Comment author: Ezekiel 25 December 2012 08:04:24PM 0 points [-]

The line that people tend to quote there is "מנהג ישראל דין הוא" (the custom of Israel is law), but most people have never looked up its formal definition. Its actual halachic bearing is much too narrow to justify (for example) making kids sing Shabbat meal songs.