handoflixue comments on What if "status" IS a terminal value for most people? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: handoflixue 26 December 2012 03:02:30AM 0 points [-]

"Ranking people by status"

My first reaction is "people DO that?"

I can evaluate status in a very crude sense, but the algorithm seems to be a combination of HasAuthority and FriendsWithAuthority. So Co-Worker A, who is friends with the CEO, can probably make higher-status requests than I can. And my boss can obviously do that. But the idea that Co-Worker A could have more status than my boss is a concept I can't evaluate; as far as I can tell it just can't be true.

Comment author: Epiphany 26 December 2012 03:58:58AM *  2 points [-]

My first reaction is "people DO that?"

I think so? I mean, if status can be high or low, that does imply a ranking. I don't know how detailed they get about it, but I think the idea is to have a hierarchy when you're finished.

can probably make higher-status requests than I can

I don't even have that. I just do whatever makes sense for the situation and then when people behave in a way that makes what I'm doing dysfunctional, I go "What the heck?" Then, I look at it in hindsight and go "Oh, yeah. Status games exist. Right."

This is probably not good, but considering my level of motivation, it's going to take a while for me to learn to think of these things in advance...

Comment author: handoflixue 26 December 2012 07:00:57PM 0 points [-]

I have an unfortunate tendency to also run head-long in to "right, the reason this isn't working is that I don't have sufficient status to make that request", and then being very puzzled. I'd been slowly mapping this out beforehand, but this revelation was apparently a useful insight in to doing a quick, fairly heavy update. Hopefully in the future I will be a lot more aware of why things are failing, even if I'm not otherwise improving :)