Cyan comments on Catchy Fallacy Name Fallacy (and Supporting Disagreement) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Annoyance 21 May 2009 05:37:41PM -1 points [-]

True. But the receiver is just as important to understanding as the communicator. When one does what they should do, any inability to communicate rests with the other.

Cyan, both you and MendelSchmiedekamp are correct in your points, but it might be more useful to stress how Nominull's behavior fell short of the ideal communication strategy, rather than noting that being right isn't necessarily useful.

Comment author: Cyan 21 May 2009 06:59:24PM 0 points [-]

Good point. Suppose the procedure ought to be something like:

  1. state what (you think) the other person was asserting
  2. show why that specific assertion fails
  3. (optional) name the fallacy

Nominull skipped step 2, which in this case might be, "There's a difference between something being obscure to you and it being obscure in a general sense. I don't think "tl;dr" can be considered generally obscure given that the explanation of what it means is the top google hit."

Comment author: thomblake 21 May 2009 07:03:04PM 0 points [-]

the explanation of what it means is the top google hit

Good point - I think it should have defused much of the disagreement. You get the definition right on the results page!

ETA: I have no idea whether I meant to say "defused" or "diffused" there. Hmm...