NancyLebovitz comments on The Zeroth Skillset - Less Wrong

48 Post author: katydee 30 January 2013 12:46PM

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 31 January 2013 03:04:13AM 2 points [-]

It can take years to work one's way out of poverty. What do you suggest doing in the meanwhile?

Comment author: private_messaging 03 February 2013 05:07:10PM *  5 points [-]

Stay outta trouble, learn running, figure out various tricks - kick cars so alarms go off, maybe carry mace and some shrieking device, look crazy when threatened, I don't know, hiss real loud, that'll freak people out, they don't know maybe you're mentally retarded and basically a bigger chimpanzee. They'd never mess with a smaller brained ape your size, an ape half your size can totally mess people up - an ape will bite off fingers, gouge out eyes, rip off ears... without any martial arts. Don't look like you're clever enough to figure out that if you fight back you're more likely to die. Looking clever is stupid anyway.

My parents made a mistake of being in Russian part of Soviet Union when Soviet Union broke down - can't really blame them for not wanting to be in a hostile-ish-to-russians region near border when a military superpower goes down, though. The crime rate was like you wouldn't believe.

Comment author: gwern 31 January 2013 05:44:18PM *  2 points [-]

Most martial arts schools I've checked out have monthly tuitions in the $50-150 range; so on the low end, that's at least $600 tuition. You won't get much benefit out of just 1 class a week, but 2 classes a week at an hour & half a piece (travel, changing, recovery + 1hr class ) times 3 weeks a month times minimum wage is $72 a month or $864 a year. So paying for and going to the classes is going to cost you >$1500 a year. That could be a large chunk of what it takes to get out of poverty, for example, that alone is a good chunk of many community college tuitions.

Combine that with the low absolute rate of crimes and the unknown effectiveness of standard martial arts for dealing with said crimes...

Comment author: RomeoStevens 31 January 2013 03:50:19AM *  0 points [-]

being poor doesn't mean you have to spend time around other poor people. It's certainly more difficult, but it's worth it. In addition to personal danger, your habits and behaviors tend towards being the average of those you surround yourself with.