Nick_Tarleton comments on You can't signal to rubes - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 01 January 2013 09:05:33AM *  2 points [-]

Out of curiosity, what are the connotations of the word "rube" that make you suspicious?

Low status, contemptibility, etc. I expect making status hierarchies salient to make people less rational (hence fully generic suspicion), and I had the specific hypothesis that you might see people using 'signaling' models as judging others as contemptible and be offended by this.

Relatedly, I dislike calling the behavior in question "pandering", since I expect using condemnatory terms for phenomena to make them aversive to look at closely, and to lead to bias in attribution (against seeing them in oneself/'good' people and towards seeing them in 'bad' people, as well as towards seeing people who unambiguously exhibit them as 'bad').

Comment author: Patrick 01 January 2013 09:15:45AM 0 points [-]

Now that you mention it, I think this does occur, although I think most of the judgement is directed at the 'signaller' (or in my language 'panderer') for being vain or duplicitous, although I don't like saying I'm offended by it ("Offense is a sign of a weak and bourgeois mind" says my inner Dali.)

I think that 'pandering' does carry the connotations of how 'signalling' is used, but I'm happy to accept alternatives. One I can think of right away is "appealing to", and I'd be happy to switch from 'pandering' to 'appealing' if you like.

Comment author: fiddlemath 02 January 2013 05:15:44AM 0 points [-]

"Influencing" is pretty neutral, if not very specific. "Exploiting the halo effect" is too long, but precise.