Pablo_Stafforini comments on Open Thread, January 1-15, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 03 January 2013 05:07:53AM *  6 points [-]

Thanks!

Of course, the premise that "humans are the only beings who can reason about their own preferences" could only justify the conclusion that some human beings are special, since there are members of the human species who lack that ability. Similar objections could be raised against any other proposed candidate property. This has long been recognized by moral philosophers.

Comment author: ChristianKl 03 January 2013 08:22:07PM 0 points [-]

Of course, the premise that "humans are the only beings who can reason about their own preferences" could only justify the conclusion that some human beings are special, since there are members of the human species who lack that ability.

In our society we don't really respect the volition of those human beings. We give them legal guardians who are supposed to decide in their interests instead of letting them make their own decisions. We don't let them vote in our elections.

Comment author: ChristianKl 03 January 2013 08:23:32PM 0 points [-]

Of course, the premise that "humans are the only beings who can reason about their own preferences" could only justify the conclusion that some human beings are special, since there are members of the human species who lack that ability.

In our society we don't really respect the volition of those human beings. We give them legal guardians who are supposed to decide in their interests instead of letting them make their own decisions. We don't let them vote in our elections.

Comment author: Pablo_Stafforini 03 January 2013 10:31:40PM *  2 points [-]

That is not because we don't regard their preferences as valuable in themselves, but simply because these beings lack the means to do the kinds of things that would allow them to satisfy those preferences. In any case, CEV does not exclude such humans from the class of creatures whose volitions are to be coherently extrapolated.