Qiaochu_Yuan comments on Rationality Quotes January 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Endovior 11 January 2013 09:39:26PM -2 points [-]

Machines aren't capable of evil. Humans make them that way.

-Lucca, Chrono Trigger

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 11 January 2013 09:56:03PM 10 points [-]

Eh. Would you say that "humans aren't capable of evil. Evolution makes them that way"?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 12 January 2013 04:42:56PM 11 points [-]

I might, if I was a god talking to other gods. And if I was a gun talking to other guns, I'd tell them to shut up about humans and take responsibility for their own bullets.

Comment author: BerryPick6 12 January 2013 05:06:56PM *  3 points [-]

Would you say that "humans aren't capable of evil. Evolution makes them that way"?

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I might, if I was a god talking to other gods.

I feel like a strange loop is now formed when humans say things like: "God isn't capable of evil. Our definition makes him that way."

Comment author: Kawoomba 11 January 2013 10:10:20PM 2 points [-]

"Evolution isn't capable of evil. Time made it that way."

Zugzwang: your turn!

Comment author: benelliott 12 January 2013 09:36:18AM *  3 points [-]

"Time isn't capable of evil, its not even an optimization process."

Comment author: [deleted] 12 January 2013 07:15:45PM 2 points [-]

[Time i]s not even an optimization process.

Yes it is. Its optimizand is entropy.

Epistemic status: interesting idea I think I've heard somewhere. Don't dare to ask me if I believe it myself or I will ask you to taboo words and you don't want to do that.

Comment author: [deleted] 11 January 2013 10:58:07PM 5 points [-]

"DO NOT MESS WITH TIME"

Comment author: [deleted] 12 January 2013 11:34:11PM *  0 points [-]

But evolution isn't sapient and... Or isn't it?

[Edited to remove potentially mind-killing example.]

Comment author: KnaveOfAllTrades 13 January 2013 08:41:18AM -1 points [-]
Comment author: [deleted] 12 January 2013 11:24:47PM 0 points [-]

But humans are sapient and have rebelled against evolution, whereas machines aren't and just do what humans tell them.

The problem is that this may change in the future, and a blog sponsored by the organization that's trying to prevent exactly that is probably not the right place to post such a quote.

Comment author: Endovior 13 January 2013 12:52:40AM 0 points [-]

My point in posting it was that UFAI isn't 'evil', it's badly programmed. If an AI proves itself unfriendly and does something bad, the fault lies with the programmer.