Mitchell_Porter comments on Morality is Awesome - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 06 January 2013 05:36:15PM *  34 points [-]

Morality needs a concept of awfulness as well as awesomeness. In the depths of hell, good things are not an option and therefore not a consideration, but there are still choices to be made.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 07 January 2013 01:37:26PM 11 points [-]

In the depths of hell, good things are not an option and therefore not a consideration, but there are still choices to be made.

Gloomiest sentence of 2013 so far. Upvoted.

Comment author: MugaSofer 07 January 2013 08:23:29PM 3 points [-]

"Least not-awesome choice" is isomorphic to "most awesome choice".

Curiously, I like everything about your comment but this, it's central point. Indeed, a concept of negative utility is probably useful; but this is not why.

Comment author: Decius 08 January 2013 05:51:57AM 10 points [-]

I think that 'awesome' loses a lot of value when you are forced to make the statement "Watching lot of people die was the most awesome choice I had, because any intervention would have added victims without saving anyone."

I propose 'lame' and 'bummer' as antonyms for 'awesome'. Instead of trying to figure out the most awesome of a series of bad options, we can discuss the least lame.

Comment author: JamesAndrix 15 January 2013 09:35:46PM 3 points [-]

Sucks less sucks less.

Comment author: Decius 15 January 2013 11:12:56PM 1 point [-]

What's the adjectival form of suck?

Comment author: BerryPick6 15 January 2013 11:18:28PM *  1 point [-]

Sucky. As in: "That movie was really sucky."

ETA: It's even in the dictionary!

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 15 January 2013 11:18:03PM 1 point [-]

Sucky. (It's kind of sucky, but oh well.)

Comment author: Decius 16 January 2013 12:19:10AM 0 points [-]

Is "suckier" awesomer than "lamer"?

Comment author: MugaSofer 08 January 2013 09:03:10AM -2 points [-]

Sounds like an excellent idea.

Comment author: BillyOblivion 28 January 2013 05:42:14PM 0 points [-]

I'm sigquoting that if you don't mind.

Not that that means anything anymore, but I'm old school that way.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 20 January 2013 04:14:56PM 0 points [-]

Couldn't resist meming this.

Comment author: insufferablejake 19 January 2013 07:12:16PM 0 points [-]

good things are not an option and therefore not a consideration, but there are still choices to be made.

Awesome line. Up goes the vote.

Comment author: Decius 08 January 2013 05:47:22AM 0 points [-]

Morality needs a concept of awfulness as well as awesomeness.

Concur. Upvoted.