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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 11 January 2013 12:53:11AM *  -1 points [-]

Kratoklastes, your arguments are clumsy, incoherent, borderline unreadable. Your being downvoted has nothing to do with "correct lines" or not, since we have a goodly number of libertarians in here (and in fact this site has been accused of being a plutocrat's libertarian conspiracy in the past), it has to do with your basic inability to form coherent arguments or to address the points that other people are making. And also your overall tone, which is constantly rude as if that would earn you points - it doesn't.

As to 'hiring thugs to beat up people who engage in' [insert behaviour here]... well, that seems a perfect analysis of what the State does to people who disagree with it: since I advocate the non-aggression principle, I would certainly never support such a thing

And yet your argument DOES support it: You argued that someone can prove that a cost is incurred on them by being willing to pay money to stop such behaviour. You've argued that morality is about letting people do as they will as long as they aren't incurring costs on others.

Can you really not see how these two statements fit together so that your argument ends up excusing all that state violence which you decry? The theocratic Iranian state after all is composed of people, which prove that sinners are incurring costs against them by being willing to pay money (e.g. morality police wages) to stop such sinful behavior.

That's your argument, though you didn't realize you make it -- because you just never seem to realize the precise meaning and consequences of your words.

And as for your babble about Coase, I never mentioned Coase, I've never read Coase, and that whole paragraph is just a further example of your incohererence.