Error comments on Group rationality diary, 1/9/13 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Error 10 January 2013 01:00:00PM 1 point [-]

I've been looking into beeminder and procrastinating about using it. The irony of this has not escaped me.

There is a class of things I don't want to do so much as have done, such as exercise; this is the sort of thing I'd like to use beeminder for. The internal fear leading to the procrastination seems to be "oh, crap, if I take step X that is likely to override my defenses against doing Y, I might actually do Y."

My brain goes to remarkable lengths to undermine me.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 10 January 2013 01:22:47PM 6 points [-]

Attempts to exercise because I want to lose weight have failed me, every time.

Attempts to exercise because I had already reached the point where I enjoyed the exercise, however, succeeded. When I worked a manual-labor job, I got in terrific shape, exercising outside the job itself on a regular basis; I'd go jogging with the flu, in the rain, whatever. I didn't even notice I was in great shape until a couple of months after I was.

I've had trouble putting myself into the mindset that "If I keep this up, I'll eventually enjoy it," using the enjoyment of the exercise as a terminal goal. But I think that it might be more successful than using a goal which is distinct from the action that leads to the goal.

Don't choose ends; choose means, as ends into themselves. The means are what you spend all your time doing, after all.

Comment author: RichardHughes 10 January 2013 08:10:42PM 2 points [-]

Are you sure that you really want to have done Y? Maybe you just think you do.

Comment author: gwillen 11 January 2013 04:27:40AM 1 point [-]

I suggest picking exactly one thing you'd like to track, and put it into Beeminder just to track, without enforcing a goal on it. That is a good way to get started. (It will require you to set a goal, but you can set it to be something you can trivially meet. I.e. if you're tracking 'how many minutes I ran today', just make the goal zero minutes.)