Vladimir_Nesov comments on Dissenting Views - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 27 May 2009 07:46:43PM *  -2 points [-]

Remaining silent if you don't have an argument that's likely to convince, educate or at least interest your opponent is generally a good policy. I'm not arguing with you, because I don't think I'll be able to change your mind (without extraordinary effort that I'm not inclined to make).

Trolling consists in writing text that falls deaf on the ears of the intended audience. Professing advanced calculus on a cooking forum or to 6-year olds is trolling, even though you are not wrong. When people don't want to hear you, or are incapable of understanding you, or can't stand the way you present your material, that's trolling on your part.

Comment author: timtyler 27 May 2009 08:07:19PM *  4 points [-]

OK, then. Regarding trolling, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

It does not say that trolling consists in writing text that falls deaf on the ears of the intended audience. What it says is that trolls have the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

This is a whole thread where we are supposed to be expressing "dissenting views". I do have some dissenting views - what better place for them than here?

I deny trolling activities. I am here to learn, to debate, to make friends, to help others, to get feedback - and so on - my motives are probably not terribly different from those of most other participants.

One thing that I am is critical. However, critics are an amazingly valuable and under-appreciated section of the population! About the only people I have met who seem to understand that are cryptographers.