palladias comments on Open Thread, February 1-14, 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: palladias 01 February 2013 06:09:04PM 13 points [-]

I gave a talk in Chicago on using Ideological Turing Tests to avoid some mindkill-y problems and have better, more interesting arguments. The video is now up.

In an Ideological Turing Test, you answer one set of questions honestly and another as your best model of your ideological opponent. It's a nice way to spot and burn strawmen and to get curious about why your opponent thinks the thing zer does instead of just angry that they won't concede. Other material included: tips on skipping generic argument scripts and cribbing from LARPing to build a line of retreat.

Comment author: palladias 01 February 2013 08:53:36PM 12 points [-]

Would this be of interest as a discussion post? I assume anyone interested just pops over chez moi to read up.

Comment author: beoShaffer 01 February 2013 09:37:33PM 6 points [-]

Would this be of interest as a discussion post?

Yes.

I assume anyone interested just pops over chez moi to read up.

I have not been doing that, but I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Comment author: palladias 04 February 2013 07:36:59PM 1 point [-]

Ok, I will have something up by the time this open thread's period ends.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 February 2013 11:49:27PM 0 points [-]

I'm looking forward to it.

Comment author: Klao 05 February 2013 11:13:58PM 1 point [-]

Wow, this is amazing! Both, the idea and your presentation of it.

Very insightful and though-provoking. And, my mind was completely blown by the fact that you have converted. It so doesn't fit into my models that I am quite confused. I would be very curious what's behind it and what would you answer to your own questions (before and after). But, I guess you wrote about it a lot, so I'll just go and read it.

And yes, this definitely deserves a discussion post!