army1987 comments on Rationality Quotes February 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Swimmer963 02 February 2013 01:03:42PM 11 points [-]

No one really believes God will protect them from harm...

I have some friends who do... At least insofar as things like "I don't have to worry about finances because God is watching over me, so I won't bother trying to keep a balanced budget." Then again, being financially irresponsible (a behaviour I find extremely hard to understand and sympathize with) seems to be common-ish, and not just among people who think God will take care of their problems.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 February 2013 04:55:58PM 1 point [-]

Well... as something completely and obviously deterministic (the amount of money you have at the end of the month is the amount you had at the beginning of the month, plus the amount you've earned, minus the amount you've spent, for a sufficiently broad definition of “earn” and “spend”), that's about the last situation in which I'd expect people to rely on God. With stuff which is largely affected by factors you cannot control directly (e.g. your health) I would be much less surprised.

Comment author: CCC 02 February 2013 06:57:47PM 6 points [-]

Once you have those figures, it is deterministic; however, at the start of the month, those figures are not yet determined. One might win a small prize in a lottery; the price of some staple might unexpectedly increase or decrease; an aunt may or may not send an expensive gift; a minor traffic accident may or may not happen, requiring immediate expensive repairs.

So there are factors that you cannot control that affect your finances.

Comment author: bentarm 03 February 2013 08:30:45PM 3 points [-]

...that's about the last situation in which I'd expect people to rely on God

Does this cause you to doubt the veracity of the claim in the parent, or to update towards your model of what people rely on God for being wrong? I guess it should probably be both, to some extent. It's just not really clear from your post which you're doing.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 February 2013 11:41:23PM 1 point [-]

Mostly the latter, as per Hanlon's razor.

Comment author: Swimmer963 03 February 2013 01:24:18AM 0 points [-]

With stuff which is largely affected by factors you cannot control directly (e.g. your health) I would be much less surprised.

"Praying for healing" was quite a common occurrence at my friend's church. I didn't pick that as an example because's it's a lot less straightforward. Praying for healing probably does appear to help sometimes (placebo effect), and it's hard enough for people who don't believe in God to be rational about health–there aren't just factor you cannot control, there are plenty of factors we don't understand.

Comment author: woodside 03 February 2013 07:59:05AM 2 points [-]

There hasn't been a lot of money spent researching it, but meta-analysis of the studies that have been conducted show that on average there is no placebo effect.

Comment author: Swimmer963 03 February 2013 01:36:12PM 2 points [-]

That's really interesting...I had not heard that. Thanks for the info!