ChristianKl comments on Rationality Quotes February 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 February 2013 07:31:16PM *  5 points [-]

In the Wikipedia article that desribes him he's quoted as suggesting that the US should have retaliated 9/11 with nuclear bombs. That a non-scientific racist position.

Huh, what definition of "racist" are you using here? Would you describe von Neumann's proposal for a pre-emtive nuclear strike on the USSR as "racist"?

He published some material that's widely considered as racist in Psychology Today. I don't see why "racist" is no valid word to describe his conclusions.

I'm not sure what you mean by "racist", however is your claim supposed to be that this somehow implies that the conclusion is false/less likely? You may want to practice repeating the Litany of Tarski.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 February 2013 08:58:08PM 1 point [-]

Huh, what definition of "racist" are you using here?

It's basically about putting a low value on the life on non-white civilians. In addition "I would do to foreigners, what Ann Coulter would do to them", is also a pretty straight way to signal racism.

I'm not sure what you mean by "racist", however is your claim supposed to be that this somehow implies that the conclusion is false/less likely?

I haven't argued that fact. I'm advocating for having a broad number of words which multidimensional meaning.

I see no reason to treat someone who makes wrong claims about race and who's personal beliefs cluster with racist beliefs in his nonscientific statements the same way as someone who just makes wrong statements about the boiling point of some new synthetic chemical.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 02 February 2013 10:01:23PM *  5 points [-]

It's basically about putting a low value on the life on non-white civilians.

So would you call the bombings of civilians during WWII "racist"?

I haven't argued that fact. I'm advocating for having a broad number of words which multidimensional meaning.

So you would agree that there are some statements that are both "racist" and true.

I see no reason to treat someone who makes wrong claims about race

What do you mean by "wrong"? If you mean "wrong" in the sense of "false", you've yet to present any evidence that any of Satoshi Kanazawa's claims are wrong.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 02 February 2013 09:08:23PM 5 points [-]

Rather than using the ambiguous word "racist", one could say specifically that Kanazawa is an advocate of genocide.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 13 February 2013 07:56:04AM 1 point [-]

As I said above, did the bombings of civilians during WWII constitute "genocide"?