fubarobfusco comments on Confusion about Normative Morality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: fubarobfusco 08 February 2013 07:30:18AM 0 points [-]

Well, that's pretty much the deontological claim: that there is something to an act being wrong other than its consequences.

For instance, some would assert that an act of incestuous sex is wrong even if all the standard negative consequences are denied: no deformed babies, no unhappy feelings, no scandal, and so on. Why? Because they say there exists a moral fact that incest is wrong, which is not merely a description or prediction of incestuous acts' effects.

Comment author: roystgnr 08 February 2013 03:49:02PM 0 points [-]

"An incestuous act of sex at time t" is a descriptive statement of the world which could be able to change the output of a utility function, just as "a scandal at time t + 1 week" or "a deformed baby born at time t + 9 months" could, right? Now, my personal utility function doesn't seem to put any (terminal) value on the first statement either, but if someone else's utility function does, what makes mine "consequentialist" and theirs not?