Cthulhoo comments on Philosophical Landmines - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Emile 08 February 2013 02:34:21PM 23 points [-]

If it happens, which it does, as far as I can tell the only effective damage control strategy is to abort the conversation.

My ideal approach (not that I always do so) is more to stop taking sides and talk about the plus and minuses of each side. My position on a lot of subjects does boil down to "it's really complicated, but here are some interesting things that can be said on that topic". I don't remember having problems being bombarded with slogans (well - except with a creationist once) since usually my answer is on the lines of "eh, maybe". (this applies particularly to consequentialism and deontology, morality, rationality, and QM).

I also tend to put the emphasis more on figuring out whether there is actually a substantial disagreement, or just different use of terms (for things like "truth" or "reality").

Comment author: Cthulhoo 08 February 2013 02:50:06PM 8 points [-]

I use a similar approach, and it usually works. Make clear that you don't think you're holding the truth on the subject, whatever it means, but only that the information in your possess led you to the conclusion youre presenting. Manifest curiosity for the position the other side is expressing, even if it's cached, and even if you heard similar versions of it a hundred times before. Try to drive them out of cached mode by asking questions and forcing them to think for themselves outside of their preconstructed box. Most of all, be polite, and point out that it's fine to have some disagreement, since the issue is complictaed, and that you're really interested in sorting it out.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 08 February 2013 10:56:51PM 5 points [-]

This is especially important in the particular case mentioned in the OP - it's easy to jump from seeing someone saying that the truth exists to thinking that they think they have that truth.