BillyOblivion comments on Philosophical Landmines - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 09 February 2013 07:09:20AM 0 points [-]

I've heard people refer to something that does approximately that job as deontological injunctions. I don't much like the name either.

Do you have a real example of deontology outperforming consequentialism IRL? Bonus: do you have one that isn't just hardcoding a result computed by consequentialism? (not intended to be a challenge, BTW; actually curious, because I've heard a lot of people implying, but can't find any)

Comment author: whowhowho 11 February 2013 11:16:51AM 1 point [-]

Do you have a real example of deontology outperforming consequentialism IRL?

I don't see how you could perform a meaningful calculation without presuming which system is actually right. Who wants an efficient programme that yields the wrong results?

Comment author: BillyOblivion 24 February 2013 09:47:31PM 0 points [-]

That very much depends on who benefits from those wrong results.

Comment author: whowhowho 27 February 2013 12:44:51AM -1 points [-]

so I can say moral system A outperforms moral system B just where A serves my selfish purposes better than B. Hmm. Isn't that a rather amoral way of looking at morality?

Comment author: BillyOblivion 02 March 2013 04:25:19AM 0 points [-]

No.

It's an honest assessment of the state of the world.

I'm not agreeing with that position, I'm just saying that there are folks who would prefer an efficient program that yielded the wrong results if it benefited them, and would engage in all manner of philosophicalish circumlocutions to justify it to themselves.

Comment author: whowhowho 04 March 2013 07:30:07PM 0 points [-]

That's not very relevant to the benefits or otherwise fo consequentialism and deontology.