juliawise comments on Is suicide high-status? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Decius 13 February 2013 02:11:25AM 1 point [-]

The range of suicidal ideation varies greatly from fleeting to detailed planning, role playing, self-harm and unsuccessful attempts.

Planning, role-playing, self-harm, and attempts would each be sufficient. Thinking of suicide without planning is not sufficient, even when such thoughts include the prerequisites.

That said, if you're unsure about whether you are planning suicide, seeking help is warranted.

Comment author: juliawise 16 February 2013 03:13:25AM *  0 points [-]

In the mental health settings where I've worked, there are lots of variations on this theme.

Suicidal ideation: thinking about killing yourself. Passive suicidal ideation: thinking it would be good if you died, but not by your own action. Intent: wanting to kill yourself. Plan: having a way you want to do it. Means: you have access to the way you plan to do it.

Ideation itself is one indicator of depression. Having several of these would be an indicator of more immediate danger.