JonatasMueller comments on Questions for Moral Realists - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 12 March 2013 06:35:35PM 1 point [-]

Did you read my article Arguments against the Orthogonality Thesis?

Of course!

Likewise, an experience of extreme success or pleasure is intrinsically felt as good, and this goodness is a real occurrence in the world.

-> Likewise, an experience of extreme success or pleasure is often intrinsically felt as good, and this feeling of goodness is a real occurrence in the world.

And that renders the 4th point moot - your extra axiom (the one that goes from "is" to "ought") is "feelings of goodness are actually goodness". I slightly disagree with that on a personal moral level, and entirely disagree with the assertion that it's a logical transition.

Comment author: JonatasMueller 12 March 2013 11:51:34PM 1 point [-]

This is a relevant discussion in another thread, by the way:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/gu1/decision_theory_faq/8lt9?context=3