shiftedShapes comments on Realism : Direct or Indirect? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: savageorange 15 February 2013 05:59:40AM *  0 points [-]

I assume you mean indirect realism, since that's what that quote is about.

Am I to take it, then, that you would approve of a statement revised to read:

"Indirect realism is broadly equivalent to the view that states that we can know only our ideas and interpretations of the way the world is, and cannot obtain any knowledge directly from reality."

Comment author: shiftedShapes 15 February 2013 01:20:56PM -1 points [-]

I meant direct

Comment author: savageorange 15 February 2013 02:17:06PM *  -1 points [-]

So, right at the beginning of this thread, you meant 'direct'. And you never corrected this misunderstanding, even after I repeatedly talked about indirect realism in my replies?

Comment author: shiftedShapes 15 February 2013 02:34:44PM 0 points [-]

No when I said indirect I meant that as well. My problem is that they both use "reality" to reference a theoretical construct that arguably none of us have ever experienced.

Comment author: savageorange 16 February 2013 12:32:30AM 0 points [-]

They do. What else would we use the word 'reality' to mean? I'm not seeing any alternative here (infinite recursion on the concept of 'reality' doesn't count as a solution.)

Comment author: shiftedShapes 16 February 2013 04:37:42AM 0 points [-]

Just what one experiences, with the external world that we agree upon going by consensus reality. Is that what you were asking.

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