John_Maxwell_IV comments on Call for discussion: Signalling and/vs. accomplishment - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ThrustVectoring 23 February 2013 04:58:30PM 10 points [-]

When signalling (or whatever the actual human decision-making algorithm is ) promotes activities that are correlated enough with good actual objectives, you'll wind up getting that stuff done anyways. If making cool products promotes your status and makes you millions of dollars as a startup, you'll wind up with high geek status and millions of dollars.

My point is that signalling isn't orthogonal to accomplishing things. They're actually pretty well correlated. Making millions of dollars is high-status. Fixing societal problems is high-status. Getting a project done is high-status. High-status things generally aren't that useless.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 24 February 2013 09:08:29AM 2 points [-]

If we could identify things that were high status and useless, how easy would it be to lower their status and thereby optimize society's status budget?

Comment author: Athrelon 24 February 2013 02:33:58PM *  1 point [-]

So...you, the person who is low status because of not doing the useless status-enhancing thing, are going to try to expropriate status from the high-status useless people? Let me know how that goes!