shminux comments on Exponent of Desire - Less Wrong

8 Post author: shminux 26 February 2013 06:01PM

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Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 26 February 2013 09:42:50PM *  9 points [-]

You mean, you want it,

but you're neutral to wanting it,

and you definitely don't want to want to want it,

and you're neutral towards wanting not to want to want it,

and you're glad you're neutral towards wanting not to want to want it,

etc?

Seems like someone who likes something but is pretty glad they're not obsessive about it. Could happen with a moderate user of alcohol, or a fan of something that gathers obsessive fans...

Comment author: shminux 26 February 2013 10:50:31PM *  10 points [-]

He wanted a sin and you gave him a cos.

Comment author: wanderingsoul 27 February 2013 06:05:57AM *  9 points [-]

I don't really care much about the it

My friends do though, so I often wish I cared more

I'm unsure whether I want to be moved by that consideration though

I really wish I had stronger opinions about things like that

But I don't really know how much good that wish is doing me

At least I give self reflection a shot though, people always say it has good effects

Though I'm unsure whether I should believe the hype

I dislike always being uncertain

Though I admit that dislike has both unpleasant and motivating aspects

And I love just what this drive to dispel uncertainty can do

...

Bonus points to whoever manages to make one recurse on itself and actually get the infinite series

Comment author: ahartell 27 February 2013 08:03:11AM 0 points [-]

Awesome.

Shouldn't the last one refer to the one above it rather that the one two places above it though? I think it should be "and I love being able to recognize the costs and benefits of this uncertainty" rather than "and I love just what this drive to dispel uncertainty can do."

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 27 February 2013 03:41:23PM *  1 point [-]

I think it fits better if cos = you have it and don't care that you have it, etc. I don't mean it fits what you were saying originally, but in terms of conceptual schema, I think the integral of w(s) is cleaner.

Comment author: shminux 27 February 2013 06:01:19PM 0 points [-]

Sorry, you are right, I got confused.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 27 February 2013 06:09:01PM 0 points [-]

In the OP, 0th order was your wanting the thing, right? So you were right that I gave him cos...

Comment author: shminux 27 February 2013 07:58:06PM 0 points [-]

No, "you want it" corresponds to w, "don't want to want to want it," is -w^3/3!, etc.