Puredoxyk comments on Rationality Quotes March 2013 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Puredoxyk 02 March 2013 05:31:19PM 1 point [-]

"Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent." -L. Wittgenstein

(Apologies if this quote has been in a previous month -- I'm a new user to LW -- but I had to include it since a) pretty brevity and b) so perfect for the Internets!)

Comment author: gwern 02 March 2013 05:54:51PM 2 points [-]

Already included in http://lesswrong.com/lw/dei/rationality_quotes_july_2012/6ydf - it's also so famous a line that I would hesitate to include it even if it weren't embedded in an existing quote.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 02 March 2013 11:26:33PM 1 point [-]

How do you determine which things you can't speak of?

Comment author: simplicio 02 March 2013 11:58:31PM 1 point [-]

In context, by "whereof one cannot speak" Witty means "whereof one is ignorant."

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 03 March 2013 04:48:37AM 1 point [-]

People aren't reliably good at knowing what they're ignorant about, so having some heuristics for identifying ignorance would be a good idea.

Did Wittgenstein mean ordinary ignorance or comprehensive Taoist ignorance?

Comment author: simplicio 03 March 2013 06:47:34AM 1 point [-]

The former, I think. Not sure I know the concepts behind the latter.

I think the advice is basically saying "Don't make grand proclamations about things you have no way of knowing about." A nice (if cliched) example might be life after death.