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Comment author: Furcas 12 July 2010 02:21:06PM 4 points [-]

What incentive could I possibly have to decide to be an atheist?

To avoid being punished by the God of Rationality. Since there's no evidence for gods, It sends all theists to Hell.

Comment author: nick012000 12 July 2010 02:26:17PM *  0 points [-]

And I'd thank him for it, since it's better to spend eternity burning in Religious Hell than ceasing to exist. At least in Religious Hell, I'm still me. ;)

Also, I should probably be going to bed since I live in Australia and it's half-past midnight and I have university tomorrow.

Comment author: Furcas 12 July 2010 02:47:30PM *  1 point [-]

If Atheism is correct, I cease to exist after I die no matter what I believe in.

And I'd thank him for it, since it's better to spend eternity burning in Religious Hell than ceasing to exist. At least in Religious Hell, I'm still me. ;)

That belief in an afterlife tends to go with belief in a deity doesn't make disbelief in an afterlife a logical consequence of atheism.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 12 July 2010 03:00:47PM 1 point [-]

That belief in an afterlife tends to go with belief in a deity doesn't make disbelief in an afterlife a logical consequence of atheism.

Yes, but it seems fair to say that P(Afterlife|A deity exists) > P(Afterlife|~ A deity exists).

Comment author: AlexM 12 July 2010 03:38:59PM 2 points [-]

why? how do you measure that P of caring personal god who saves human souls from extinction is higher that P of unthinking mechanism ("akashic chronicle", "reincarnation wheel") doing the same?

Comment author: JoshuaZ 12 July 2010 03:43:06PM 3 points [-]

why? how do you measure that P of caring personal god who saves human souls from extinction is higher that P of unthinking mechanism ("akashic chronicle", "reincarnation wheel") doing the same?

I don't, but something like a reincarnation wheel or an akashic chronicle is not inconsistent with the existence of a deity so I don't need to.

Comment author: AlexM 12 July 2010 03:37:41PM 3 points [-]

For real life example: one Russian kook preaches exactly this doctrine - strong atheism combined with strong belief of immortality of souls. Add holocaust denial, moon landing denial and admiration of Stalin as greatest hero that ever lived and you have something that sells dozens of books and gains many dedicated followers. Any more about him would belong to "irrationality quotes" thread if one existed...

Comment author: JoshuaZ 12 July 2010 03:43:39PM 2 points [-]

Interesting. Never head of this guy. Link?

Comment author: AlexM 12 July 2010 04:34:25PM 2 points [-]

|Interesting.

as interesting as picking up rocks and observing insects crawling under them, IMHO

|Never head of this guy. Link?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yury_Ignatyevich_Mukhin

most of his works are online, in Russian of course, links from Russian wiki page

Comment author: Randolf 14 November 2011 09:27:07PM *  1 point [-]

as interesting as picking up rocks and observing insects crawling under them, IMHO

What, insects are fascinating!

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