CronoDAS comments on Outside the Laboratory - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 16 December 2013 06:20:39PM *  0 points [-]

depending on how you define "most food around" of course.

I define it as food I see and eat in my home as well as food in the restaurants. I like yummy food and I see no reason to eat non-yummy food.

You seem to think that any tasty food is super-stimulus food. That's not how most people use the term.

Well do you agree that pizza tastes really good?

Depends. There's a lot of bad pizza out there. You can get very good pizza but you can also get mediocre or bad pizza.

Do you agree that (generally speaking) small children LOVE pizza?

I don't see why this is relevant. Small children in general also like pasta and even you probably wouldn't consider it a super-stimulus food.

What is a food or drink which you do consider to be unhealthy?

The dose make the poison. In small amounts or consumed rarely, pretty much no food or drink is unhealthy (of course there are a bunch of obvious exceptions for allergies, gluten- or lactose-intolerance, outright toxins, etc.).

With this caveat, I generally consider to be unhealthy things like the large variety of liquid sugar (e.g. soda or juice) or, say, hydrogenated fats (e.g margarine, many cookies).

Comment author: hyporational 16 December 2013 06:43:38PM 0 points [-]

Super-stimulus foods are ether very sugary or very salty

Or fatty.

You seem to think that any tasty food is super-stimulus food.

Shouldn't pretty much any cooked food be a super-stimulus considering the relevant ancestral environment and why we intricately cook food in the first place?

Small children in general also like pasta and even you probably wouldn't consider it a super-stimulus food.

Super-stimuli could be different for different age groups. I've never seen anyone love plain pasta, they like their ketchup and sauce too.

Comment author: CronoDAS 17 December 2013 04:56:26AM 2 points [-]

Shouldn't pretty much any cooked food be a super-stimulus considering the relevant ancestral environment and why we intricately cook food in the first place?

According to what I read in Scientific American, the human digestive system has evolved to require cooked food; humans can't survive on what chimpanzees and other primates eat.