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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 27 January 2012 06:11:15PM 6 points [-]

Perhaps I'm committing a fundamental attribution error right now, but you currently seem to me so mindkilled by politics that you seem to think anyone downvoting you must be a dirty communist -- as opposed to e.g. people that are turned off by your rudeness, your leaps to conclusions, etc, etc.

So mindkilled, that you didn't even notice that that self-reported communists in LW are 5, not 54. So mind-killed that you don't even check your assumptions.

Stalin (a self-identified communist) murdered 50,000,000 innocent people, Mao (another self-identified communist) murdered at leasty 60,000,000, and people still identify themselves with that ideology?

Communists say in turn "Hitler was a NOT-communist, and Attila the Hun was a NOT-communist, and Genghis-Khan was a not-communist, and the slave-owners of American South were not-communists, and the people who launched World War I were not-communists, and people still identify themselves with non-communism?"

Now a more *rational" argument you could have made would have been to statistically correlate increased/decreased misery/oppression under communist regimes over time, and to argue that this shows communism increases misery.

Comment author: Alejandro1 27 January 2012 06:35:14PM 2 points [-]

Perhaps I'm committing a fundamental attribution error right now, but you currently seem to me so mindkilled...

One for the "Shit Rationalists say" thread ;).

Comment author: Prismattic 27 January 2012 11:42:03PM 3 points [-]

I wouldn't put too much effort into refuting Jake_Witmer. His rants include a reference to "FEMA camps". The FEMA camp conspiracy theory is to legitimate concerns about declining civil liberties in the US as "9/11 was an inside job" is to legitimate objections to the "war on terror". In other words, you're probably underestimating just how mindkilled he is, and it is unlikely to be worth your time to make a detailed attempt to persuade him to change.