Gabriel comments on Caelum est Conterrens: I frankly don't see how this is a horror story - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Gabriel 06 March 2013 05:43:49PM 7 points [-]

Different people get upset about all sorts of stimuli, from squirting blood to scraping nails to clicking computers to a microcosm inhabited by adorable inhuman sentients to whom no one gives proper moral consideration .

Actually, if I recall correctly, in the original Friendship is Optimal, once they were constructed, the non-uploaded people received the same moral consideration as those originally human. They were designed to fit into a preconceived world but they weren't slaves. I'm not quite sure whether that feels bad because it's actually bad or because it's so very different from our current methods of manufacturing minds (roll genetic dice, expose to local memes, hope for the best).

Comment author: RomeoStevens 07 March 2013 08:23:14AM 4 points [-]

some people find house elves horrifying, even the cheerful ones.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 30 October 2013 09:15:22PM 1 point [-]

Making house elves is horrible, but once they exist it's ceteris paribus better to satisfy their desire to serve than not.

(Making house elves is horrible because they are capable of suffering but not resistance. It's the "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" situation.)

Comment author: DanielH 17 October 2013 06:19:29AM 1 point [-]

I don't see it as bad at all and suspect most who do see it as bad do so because it's different from the current method. These minds are designed to have lives that humans would consider valuable, and that they enjoy for all its complexity. It is like making new humans in the usual method, but without the problems of abusive upbringing (the one pony with abusive upbringing wasn't a person at the time) or other bad things that can happen to a human.