DanielH comments on Caelum est Conterrens: I frankly don't see how this is a horror story - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Strilanc 07 March 2013 03:19:51AM 6 points [-]

Well, I don't really remember the exact boundary between Friend is Optimal vs Caelum est Conterrens, but...

  • People who don't want to upload are eternally harassed as society crumbles around them until they give in or die.
  • People are lied to and manipulated constantly.
  • Everything non-human (puppies, trees, stars, aliens capable of radio communication) is destroyed.
  • The uploading process seemed to be destructive only for convenience's sake.
Comment author: DanielH 17 October 2013 05:47:28AM 1 point [-]

The aliens with star communication weren't destroyed. They were close enough to "human" that they were uploaded or ignored. What's more, CelestAI would probably satisfy (most of) the values of these aliens, who probably find "friendship" just as approximately-neutral as they and we find "ponies".

Comment author: Philip_W 18 August 2015 07:51:05PM 3 points [-]

Read it more carefully. One or several paragraphs before the designated-human aliens, it is mentioned that CelestAI found many sources of complex radio waves which weren't deemed "human".