Benja comments on A problem with "playing chicken with the universe" as an approach to UDT - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Benja 08 March 2013 06:48:18AM *  1 point [-]

Why was this downvoted? (I wasn't aware of this particular ordering problem, and it's interesting. Thanks, Karl!)

Comment author: Nisan 08 March 2013 07:39:02AM 2 points [-]

It's common for top-level posts to get downvotes early on. This is mysterious.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 08 March 2013 07:50:32AM *  1 point [-]

It only takes one cantankerous person who thinks that certain topics shouldn't be discussed on LW or whatever. Eh. Whoever's doing this, your behavior is mysterious enough that I suspect it only confuses people and doesn't successfully disincentivize anyone because they have no idea what's being disapproved of, and if you're actually trying to change what gets discussed on LW or whatever you should comment in addition to downvoting.

Regarding this particular post, I didn't downvote, but I didn't like the way the first paragraph ended. It seemed excessively confrontational and made me not want to read the rest of the post.

Comment author: Karl 08 March 2013 03:06:01PM 1 point [-]

I didn't like the way the first paragraph ended. It seemed excessively confrontational and made me not want to read the rest of the post.

My intention was not to appear confrontational. It actually seemed obvious when I began thinking about this problem that the order in which we check actions in step 1 shouldn't matter but that ended up being completely wrong. That was what I was trying to convey though I admit I might have done so in a clumsy manner.

Comment author: Larks 09 March 2013 11:51:52AM 0 points [-]

I liked the style.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 08 March 2013 02:24:19PM 0 points [-]

I didn't downvote, but I am confused by 'break down and cry'.

Comment author: Karl 08 March 2013 02:56:15PM 4 points [-]

To quote step 2 of the original algorithm:

For every possible action a, find some utility value u such that S proves that A()=a ⇒ U()=u. If such a proof cannot be found for some a, break down and cry because the universe is unfair.

Comment author: Nisan 08 March 2013 02:56:03PM 0 points [-]

That's a reference to the linked post by cousin_it.

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