Ben_Welchner comments on You only need faith in two things - Less Wrong

22 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 March 2013 11:45PM

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Comment author: Benito 11 March 2013 02:16:15AM *  3 points [-]

(No, this is not the "tu quoque!" moral equivalent of starting out by assigning probability 1 that Christ died for your sins.)

Can someone please explain this?

I understand many religious people claim to just 'have faith' in Christ, with absolute certainty. I think the standard argument would run "well, you say I shouldn't have faith in Christ, but you have faith in 'science' / 'non-neglible probability on induction and some single well ordered large ordinal' so you can't argue against faith".

What is Eliezer saying here?

Addendum: By which I mean, can someone give a clear explanation of why they are not the same?

Comment author: Ben_Welchner 11 March 2013 02:52:23AM *  2 points [-]

You pretty much got it. Eliezer's predicting that response and saying, no, they're really not the same thing. (Tu quoque)

EDIT: Never mind, I thought it was a literal question.

Comment author: Benito 11 March 2013 09:45:48AM 2 points [-]

I see. Could you articulate how exactly they're not the same thing please?

Comment author: [deleted] 11 March 2013 11:44:23AM *  7 points [-]

For instance: nowhere above did EY claim anything had probability one.