cousin_it comments on Reflection in Probabilistic Logic - Less Wrong

63 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 24 March 2013 04:37PM

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Comment author: cousin_it 23 March 2013 09:31:50AM *  7 points [-]

Congrats to MIRI! Just some comments that I already made to Mihaly and Paul:

1) Agree with Abram that unidirectional implication is disappointing and the paper should mention the other direction.

2) The statement "But this leads directly to a contradiction" at the top of page 4 seems to be wrong, because the sentence P(G)<1 isn't of the form P(phi)=p required for the reflection principle.

3) It's not clear whether we could have bidirectional implication if we used closed intervals instead of open, maybe worth investigating further.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 23 March 2013 10:16:38AM 4 points [-]

We tried closed intervals a fair bit, no luck so far.

Comment author: paulfchristiano 24 March 2013 03:37:07AM 3 points [-]

Posted an edited version in response to some of these issues. Thanks again for the remarks!

(I feel less strongly about the bidirectional implication than you; as math I can see why you would definitely want it, but in practice I am nearly as happy to eat the epsilon of error.)

Comment author: cousin_it 27 March 2013 09:18:49AM *  2 points [-]

My concern is more about "leaving money on the table" so to speak. The result with epsilon error would be satisfying if we knew it was impossible to do better.

Comment author: abramdemski 23 March 2013 10:06:28PM *  1 point [-]

1) Agree with Abram that unidirectional implication is disappointing and the paper should mention the other direction.

I consider Paul's response to be sufficient.