PhilGoetz comments on The cup-holder paradox - Less Wrong

18 Post author: PhilGoetz 26 March 2013 04:47AM

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Comment author: Emile 26 March 2013 09:14:43PM 10 points [-]

Fellow European checking in, I can confirm that cup holders are disgraceful things that clutter up space because those overweight Americans just can't go for five minutes without ingesting water sweetened with corn syrup.

(we have an unobtrusive cup-holder between the backs of the front seats, I don't remember ever using it)

I don't think Europeans really think that about Americans, but I suspect a cup-holder, while convenient, might also give the car a bit of a subtle "low brow" feel that make people slightly less comfortable in spending large amounts of money on it. A bit like how a comfortable bike seat may be better and more comfortable by all metrics, but be shunned because comfortable seats are for pussies. And from a business perspective, if 1% of people complain about cup-holders (but buy anyway), and 10% of people subconsciously reduce the worth they give to a car because of cup-holders, then including cup-holders is a bad idea!

Comment author: PhilGoetz 30 March 2013 01:11:15AM *  1 point [-]

Irrelevant. Europe gets completely different cars than the US. Some automakers don't even sell the same models in Europe and the US. If European automakers design cars for the US market according to European preferences, THAT is exactly the kind of massive failure in cognition I'm looking for.

You may revise your opinion on cup-holders if you ever spend 3 hours a day commuting on a regular basis.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 March 2013 12:59:33PM 2 points [-]

You may revise your opinion on cup-holders if you ever spend 3 hours a day commuting on a regular basis.

I know quite a few Europeans who do commute.