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Comment author: ThrustVectoring 27 March 2013 09:30:23AM 9 points [-]

As far as I can tell, ketogenic diets solve the problem of fat loss. I know, anecdotes are not data, but it's worked wonders for everyone I know who's tried it (myself included).

Err on the side of posting solutions which may not be universal but are still likely to be helpful to many people.

This is the sole reason I'm posting this. Keto works for very many people. The short story of keto is that your brain can only eat certain kinds of chemicals. Glycogen from eating carbohydrates is one of them. Ketones generated from fat is another. Your body will preferentially use the first over the second, since turning fat into ketones is expensive. So if you eat few enough carbs (<30g per day is the figure I remember) and plenty enough fat (2:1 fat to protein is what I heard), your body will eventually start doing chemistry that turns dietary and body fat into ketones.

There's some more practical advice about how to induce ketosis quickly (muscles store glycogen, so exercise helps) and how to make low-carb versions of foods you enjoy, but that's pretty much the gist of it.

Comment author: brazil84 28 March 2013 01:51:31PM 0 points [-]

As far as I can tell, ketogenic diets solve the problem of fat loss. I know, anecdotes are not data, but it's worked wonders for everyone I know who's tried it (myself included).

If I may ask, what was your starting weight; what is your current weight; and how long have you been at your current weight?

Comment author: drethelin 28 March 2013 08:29:40PM 0 points [-]

when I started keeping track 479 days ago I was 270, right now I am at 228. This isn't pure keto, because at first I was doing slow carbs, and then when I switched to no carbs I kept the tim feriss style cheat day. I've also cheated on various trips and so on I've taken, but in general I have 6 days on 1 day off diet. I've gone down something like 4 pants sizes. Right now I'm trying to transition to fewer cheat days or none at all because I feel like I'm plateauing, but it's rough.

Comment author: pinyaka 30 March 2013 08:04:54PM 0 points [-]

Do you get keto flu type hangovers after your cheat days?

Comment author: drethelin 31 March 2013 05:27:18AM 0 points [-]

A little? I tend to feel really heavy and bleh at the end of cheat nights and kinda weird the next day but it's not really what I would call "keto flu"

Comment author: brazil84 28 March 2013 08:42:10PM 0 points [-]

Thank you for sharing. Are you willing to follow up in a year or two to let me know where you are?

Comment author: drethelin 28 March 2013 10:48:29PM 1 point [-]

if you want to ask again in a year sure. Email me or something in a year. Drethelin@gmail.com

Comment author: Elo 29 October 2014 06:18:00AM 2 points [-]

follow up plz?

Comment author: drethelin 29 October 2014 05:19:56PM 2 points [-]

lost some progress, up to 238.6 as of this morning, which is down from getting back up over 240. I stopped tracking regularly for a while, and now I am again and I don't know why but tracking on a daily basis seems to have some sort of causal effect making me lose weight again.

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 28 March 2013 02:39:42PM 0 points [-]

I haven't been keeping the closest track, so this isn't even a good anecdote. I was a 165 lb and 5'10 man going out of high school seven years ago, and went up to 220 as of a year ago. It wasn't all fat (I'm significantly stronger now than I was then), but I did go from wearing 34 waist jeans to a 38.

So I started at 220 and a 38 waist, and I've gone down to 180 and I think size 34 jeans (I haven't gotten around yet to buying more jeans, but my size 36's need a belt now). Exercise involved hasn't been too extensive - mostly just walking and housework. I'm still work-in-progress, but I haven't had a history of my weight yo-yoing on diets, and I intend to stay on keto for the foreseeable future.

Comment author: brazil84 28 March 2013 06:27:01PM 1 point [-]

I haven't been keeping the closest track, so this isn't even a good anecdote. I was a 165 lb and 5'10 man going out of high school seven years ago, and went up to 220 as of a year ago. It wasn't all fat (I'm significantly stronger now than I was then), but I did go from wearing 34 waist jeans to a 38.

So I started at 220 and a 38 waist, and I've gone down to 180 and I think size 34 jeans (I haven't gotten around yet to buying more jeans, but my size 36's need a belt now). Exercise involved hasn't been too extensive - mostly just walking and housework. I'm still work-in-progress, but I haven't had a history of my weight yo-yoing on diets, and I intend to stay on keto for the foreseeable future.

Thank you for your response. Will you agree to update this response in a year or two?

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 28 March 2013 07:22:41PM 1 point [-]

Yeah, I can do that.

Comment author: brazil84 28 March 2013 07:31:24PM 0 points [-]

Great, thanks. I have been doing informal research on diet and weight loss for a while now and I think there is value in following up with people a year or two down the road.

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 05 June 2014 05:08:23PM 2 points [-]

Update: I'm at pretty much the same place now as I was then. Dropped the keto diet since I was happy with where I was. Still fairly active but not hardcore about it.

Comment author: brazil84 06 June 2014 11:55:37AM 1 point [-]

thank you