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25 Post author: Qiaochu_Yuan 27 March 2013 04:51AM

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Comment author: MixedNuts 28 March 2013 11:22:09PM 4 points [-]

How do y'all have sex without asking at some point? Do you just kinda follow a script and try to guess the other person's script from their body language and hope that you get it right enough that they don't have to stop and correct you, and that your default ideas of sex more or less match? And once sex is underway, do you switch to words, or have some other method for requesting things, or just have the same kind of sex every time?

Or am I mistaken about what "asking" covers? I'm counting both asking after a makeout session and commencing sex five seconds later, and asking "Wanna meet up five days from now and do these sexual things?" and then initiating those things on the assumption you're working from the same script.

Comment author: maia 29 March 2013 05:01:13AM *  3 points [-]

In my experience there are more or less three stages:

1) Flirting without physical contact, or only with physical contact that might be acceptable for an acquaintance (brief touches, possibly friendly hugs) leading up to some kind of asking-out or other fairly direct "are you interested in me" question

2) More overt flirting, possibly later-stage physical contact, possibly leading up to kissing

3) After kissing or similar-level contact, if things seem to be getting hot and/or heavy, body-language-only communication halts. Serious Discussion is had about What Will Happen Next, including sex and/or Future Plans. This is fairly explicit and consists of things like "Do you want this to be a serious relationship?" and "Do you want to do sex act X?" and "I need to tell you about Y."

I doubt this is really applicable to anyone else, because our culture doesn't seem to really have a script that is standardized enough for anyone to follow, but it's a script that I like pretty well. I've skipped steps, but more or less always follow the "Talk about it explicitly once physical contact reaches a certain point" part, and I think it is helpful.

Comment author: MrMind 29 March 2013 08:36:09AM *  3 points [-]

3) After kissing or similar-level contact, if things seem to be getting hot and/or heavy, body-language-only communication halts.

That's really funny: for the stages I've been experiencing, that's when body-language-only communication begins.

Comment author: maia 29 March 2013 12:23:18PM 1 point [-]

Halts temporarily, I should say. After Serious Discussion is had, it generally continues.

Comment author: [deleted] 29 March 2013 12:31:46PM 0 points [-]

You mean that you explicitly, verbally ask for each step before that?

Comment author: MrMind 29 March 2013 04:25:29PM 1 point [-]

No, only that before it's usually a mix of verbal and non-verbal. After kissing, body-language-ONLY communication begins.